Mark 2 CRX guide

The mark 2 was born in the year of 1988, replacing the much renowned pocket rocket Mark 1. This later model was not to be a disappointment, and improved on the features that made the original CRX such a great car.

The first type of this new model to be released was the 1.6 16V, which puts out a very impressive 130 BHP at the flywheel. There where other variants of the CRX released, and also there are differences between JDM (Japanese Domestic Market), USA , Euro, and UK models, as detailed below.

The age old question of "which is better 16V or VT" always pops up on the forum, hopefully this guide will serve to inform and so stop the need for going over old ground. Which you prefer is a matter of personal opinion. To be over simplistic the 16v is lighter, and has a mean bonnet. The VT has better spec and a more powerful engine. If you wish to find out more please search the forum pages. PLEASE DO NOT REPEAT THE POST WITHOUT DOING YOUR RESEARCH.

UK Models

1.6 16V 1988-1990

from UK Brochure

D16 Engine

DOHC (dual overhead cams) 130 BHP

Colours; Silver, Red, White

1.6 VTEC 1990-1992

Curtesy of Paul Beasly

The VT as full leather seats with VTEC embroidered in red stitching, and black (imitation) leather door cards. Mirrors are colour coded, larger front indicators, single stainless oval exhaust pipe, a larger colour coded spoiler, new alloys, and of course the VTEC engine.

B16A1 Engine

DOHC VTEC 150 BHP

Colours; Silver, Red, Cesteral Blue, White

JDM

All JDM cars come with power steering and A/C as standard, because of the A/C the sunroof is an optional extra. Many JDM CRXs come without the sunroof, which can be a plus it terms of rust prevension. Another option was a glass roof, sometimes referred to as the Cyber CRX. Unfortunately UK cars do not have these options as standard, but the odd UK CRX with Honda (dealer) fitted A/C do exist. JDM CRXs also have plastic headlights, optional folding mirrors, different speedo clusters, climate control consoles, and a few other model differences as detailed below.

Glass roof

The JDM models are also electronically limited to a top speed of 180KPH = 112.5mph as standard.

Include glass roof and pic. Is this SiR only?

Si 1.6 16V

are the JDM years the same as the UK, 16v to 90 and vtec 90-92?

ZC engine (essentually a D16) Engine

DOHC 130 BHP

Colours; Black, Burgundy Red, White, Dark Silver, Perl Silver

SiR 1.6 VTEC

SiRdash

As the UK VT model but has the following differences. The SiR comes with the option of LSD (limited slip differential). Has half leather seats and cord door cards. It is a slight mystery if the SiR actually has an extra 10 BHP, and if does where its generated. One reason that could acount for extra power is the inclusion of a knock sensor in the engine. Basically the JDM high octane fuel coupled with the engine management system using the knock sensors readings could be the reason for this horse power increase. Maybe link to another site that contains an explanation of a knock sensor.

B16A1 Engine

DOHC 160 BHP

Colours; Black, Burgundy Red, White, Dark Silver, Perl Silver

1.5 Dual Carb

This form of the CRX was only released in Japan.

Engines type?? anyone?????

105 BHP

Colours; Black, Burgundy Red, White, Dark Silver

CRX Exclusive (special edition)

This special edition is basically a JDM Si with camel interior, wooden gear leaver knob, and upgraded sound system. I have been lucky enough to see one of these special editions when long time UK CRX group member Asuka brought an Exclusive to a Swansea meet. Apparently only 350 where made. For more information about the Exclusive and other crxs can be found at http://www.cr-x.org/home/seditions.html. Please note there are some inaccuracies on this web site, but there is also a lot of useful information.

USA CRX Types

It is very unlikely you will see a US CRX in the UK. They were sold short and Honda decided not to ship the 16V DOHC or the VTEC CRX to the USA. But there are a few differences of interest.

Si 1.6 16v 1988 -1991

D16A6 engine

SOHC 108 BHP (1988 model has 98 BHP)

HF 1.5 16v 1988 -1991

SOHC 92 BHP

D15B2 engine

DX 1.5 8V 1988 - 1991

SOHC 62 BHP

62 BHP (the least of all the CRX family)

For detailed specs visit http://sensitive_rides.tripod.com/CRX/specs.html

Both the DX and HF had rear drum brakes.

The most interesting US CRX feature must be the lack of rear seats. In its place there was a cargo compartment. The CRX door cards are also intriguing, but I do not know if any other model other than the Si sported these.

For more information about the US crx and an explanation of why they did not receive a sniff of VTEC action visit http://sensitive_rides.tripod.com/CRX/facts.html

Euro CRX

The only difference between the UK and Euro CRXs is the choice of colour. Euro CRXs had the option of black paint. Many service men/women purchased CRXs when in places such as Greece or Germany and then returned with the cars after their call of duty. Hence you may see the odd factory black non JDM CRX.

Copy of Post by hotpurple

http://board.hondacrx.co.uk/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=22758

Post subject: The difference between 16V and VT

I've had my VT for a while now and I had a 16V for quite a long time before that.

This topic is really aimed at those people who are new to CRXs and want to know which one to buy.

Firstly,

The VTEC models are a lot more expensive than the 16V for the same condition. A good 16V can be had for around £1500 wheras a good VT should expect to fetch around £2500 upwards depending on milage and condition.

Obviously the most obvious difference is the fact the VT has the VTEC engine. This engine allows the use of two wildly different cam profiles on the same engine, effectivly providing a very wide power band and good drivability at low RPM, along with a screaming top end.

The 16V is still a very good engine with 130bhp (as opposed to the VT's 150bhp) and a reasonably wide power band. The use of rockers allowed Honda to use a very 'square' cam profile which gives good flow characteristics without requireing a long duration cam. This gives a very drivable power curve with good power from around 3000rpm and a noticable push from 5500rpm all the way to 7200rpm. In contrast the VTEC pulls well all over the rev range due to a very linear power curve and from around 5000rpm feels noticably quicker than the 16v.

There are other subtle changes in other areas of the car as well.

The VTEC model was facelifted, mainly as a result of the VTEC engine itself not really fitting in the engine bay of the 16V properly. It has different headlights, rear lights, bumpers, bonnet, wheels and rear spoiler. I personally prefer the look of the VTEC model, but opinion is divided. The 16V looks a lot more 80s in my opinion, the VTEC looks very modern.

Inside the VTEC gets leather seats. You have to be careful about these. I haven't seen a pair yet that don't have significant wear on them. They tend to split along the seam between the bottom side bolster and the actual bit you sit on, which can look messy. The problem appears to be that this panel was made form Vinyl faced fabric rather than leather, probably to cut costs. Quite often this can be repaired but it has to be caught early. I am looking to replace the whole panel on mine with leather which hopefully will solve the problem.

The 16V got velour seats with CRX written on them. These are pretty much the same design as the VT seats but from Velour. Both types are very supportive and comfortable, the Leathers seem to be a bit narrower, probably to hold you in as the leather itself is very slippery.

Other changes to the interior are limited to the door cards (leather on the VT, a weird suede effect on the 16V), the instrument binnacle (looks a lot more modern on the VT) and the colour. The VT’s interior is slightly darker than the 16V.

Other changes include thicker glass on the VT (heavier due to legislation), and slightly revised suspension and brakes. The VT gets bigger brakes with ABS as standard and a thicker rear anti-roll bar, which makes it a bit more stable in high speed corners, but also tends to go to oversteer more readily. Overall it is slightly better balanced on the edge though.

To make way for the larger brakes (I think) the turning circle was increased, the 16V can turn much quicker than the VT in slow manoeuvres, and as a result the steering is a bit too slow on the VT for my liking. A net result of the lower geared rack though is a much smaller steering wheel, which is leather bound. The 16V steering wheel is a bit tacky really and resembles a bus steering wheel, the VT one is much nicer.

Much of the rest of the car is pretty much identical on both models as demonstrated by the fact that many parts are interchangeable between the models.

So how does this relate to the real world?

Well, due to the extra weight there is a minimal difference in performance between the two models but the VT is much easier to access the performance. The 16V can be a bit hard work in traffic but the VT has impeccable manners all the time. Both sound brilliant (the D16, 16V engine was used for the engine noises in the Fast and the Furious) but the VT sounds a bit more ‘Japanese’, difficult to explain, you’d have to hear them both.
When driving the 16V engine feels a lot more punchy, the VT feels a lot more relaxed (but still insanely quick and responsive), and can quite often creep up on you, culminating with you glancing down at the speedo and getting quite a shock!

The VT ultimately handles better than the 16v but seems to have grown up a bit and lost some of the rawness that made the 16V so appealing. The 16V seems to have a bit more steering feedback (this could just be the tyres on my VT which are nowhere near as good as the Eagle F1s I had on my 16V). It feels as though someone forgot to tell the Honda boys that they were designing a road car so they produced a track car in the 16V, then someone reminded them when they did the VT. Consequently the 16V is an absolute hooligan of a car and great fun to boot. The VT probably makes a better everyday proposition and is just as good fun, but mainly because of the engine. A bit like put foot down and hold on. The level of grip the CRX can provide in corners is simply intoxicating, this applies to both cars especially if the bushes have been replaced recently.

I’m sure a lot of people will have their own take on this and bits to add. Hopefully this will help people when deciding which model to choose (just buy them both!)

Useful MK2 Links - I am thinking it may be best to take this out.. dead links ect

Any ideas of specs? Should we remove this section?

http://public.srce.hr/~nvirag/vtec2.html

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/JDM-EDM-USDM/JDM/jdm_sir.htm

http://www.cr-x.org/home/

http://www.crxchaos.co.uk/index.html

Sorry about the dirty layout and html. I am concertrating on the content at the more.

Any ideas, corrections please email burlistic@yahoo.co.uk

Also all sotck pictures needed. Engines bays, model differences, etc. Basically if there is a picture that you think would complement the guide please email it. Thanks BuR

Guide compiled by Burlistic